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Role Playing Games => Resources => Vampire The Masquerade => Drakilian's Games => Character Creation => Topic started by: cdrive1 on May 06, 2016, 01:37:57 am
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NAME: Johnathan Melrowe Jacobim *AKA John the Deprived*
Player: cdrive1
Chronicle: Transylvanian Chronicles
Nature: Soldier
Sire: Edward Mordred *Who appreciates John*
Demeanor: Architect
Clan: Brujah
Generation: 8th *Sire was 7th Gen*
Concepts: Former Sellsword
Coterie: *What do I put here?*
Attributes:
Physical: Strength: 4 Dexterity: 2 Stamina: 3
Mental: Perception: 3 Intelligence: 2 Wits: 3
Social: Charisma: 2 Manipulation: 1 Appearance: 3
Abilities:
Talents: Alertness: 3 Brawl: 4 Dodge: 2 Athletics: 3 Empathy: 1
Skills: Etiquette: 3 Melee: 2 Survival: 2 Security: 2 Performance: 1
Knowledges: Investigation: 2 Law: 1 Medicine: 2
Disciplines: Potence *3*, Celerity *2*, Presence *1*
Virtues: Courage: 3 Conscience: 2 Self-Control: 5
Advantages:
Beneficial: Generation: 4 *Puts him at 8th* Mentor: 2 Influence: 1
Adversarial:
Path: Path of Honorable Accord *7*
Permanent Willpower: 9
Temporary Willpower: *Should I leave this blank?*
Health: 10/10 *Or whatever the number is for him*
Blood Pool: 15 *8th Gen*
Points per Turn: 3 *See above*
Merits:
MENTAL MERITS: Code of Honor *COST 2 Points* Light Sleeper *COST: 2 Points*
PHYSICAL MERITS: Efficient Feeding *COST: 3 Points* Huge Size *COST: 4 points*
SUPERNATURAL MERITS: Lucky *COST: 3 Points* Antitoxin Blood *COST: 1 Point*
Flaws:
MENTAL FLAW: Vengeful *GAIN: 2 Points*
PHYSICAL FLAWS: Vulnerability to Silver *GAIN: 2 Points* Glowing Eyes *GAIN: 3 Points*
SOCIAL FLAW: Enemy *GAIN: 3 Points*
Magic: *Leaving this, Combat, and Armor Blank as I assume the Storyteller will fill those out no trouble?*
Combat:
Armor:
Expanded Backgrounds: *Going to ask with DM to make sure things are approved.*
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Hi CD :)
Not sure there are Catiff even in the setting yet, it being 11 or 12 hundred BC (unless you are joining after a jump forward through time).
Also highly recommend a few ranks of Generation to fit better into the coterie. We are all started at 7th Generation. If you take 13 Gen, you will be way out-classed.
Of course that might be part of you character concept, which is fine, but I just wanted to point it out.
At any rate, this is your thread and you can delete this post of mine once you read it to keep your space clean.
Welcome to the madhouse! 8)
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Well, I think techinically Steeple is a catiff, being rejected by his clan and all ha ha.
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Also, Drak assigned sires for the rest of us with back stories to fit the setting. (Maybe you already talked to him about it.)
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We haven't spoken much, all I did was invite him to the game last night. I'll get a little more detailed now
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Join me cdrive1! And together we shall defeat Sanchez!!! ;D
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Its mitru god dammit xD
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Only a Malkavian would know his True Name. ;D
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@BerkaZerka: Considering that the Malkavian PC in Bloodlines figured out the identity of the 'Taxi Driver' PERFECTLY, they know plenty! *Also having a freak out that *FOR ONCE* could be a VERY common reaction in all Vampires, no matter the type*
As for the Sheet, I want to help make a proper character for the setting, do some justice...So who would you say is John's Sire and do you approve of the clan I went with? If not then I could go with a Tremere or a Brujah.
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Ooh, a Brujah would be Steeple's best friend haha! ;D
(though having a Malkie as your 'best friend' might not be an entirely good thing...)
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Alright, so since your character is new to the story you actually get to have a lot more leeway than my first few players when they started.
However, some of the limitations will remain:
First off, something that Seth already mentioned - You have to have a sire who is alive, and you have to have a close relationship (negative or positive doesn't really matter) with him/her. I create the sire, but since you're just starting you can tell me how your relationship is, or you can just write your backstory and i'll come up with the rest.
Your relationship with your sire will determine a LOT about your character's position in vampiric society. Consider Steeple, who is the only character who had a negative relationship with his sire and decided to sever their connection at the beginning of the game. His sire disowned him, made sure that he would never be a prince (all the other vampires went on to get their own cities), and if it weren't for Radu Steeple would be in a terrible situation right now (compared to the other characters).
Also, unless I kill your sire or unless you somehow kill your sire (Daedalus did that with his character by letting the Demon Kupala possess him and diabolize his sire, Sandor), they are alive.
If you start the story with a positive relationship towards your sire, you also start with a two-step bond towards them, a princedom, a Status of 3 and five extra background points. If you start with a negative relationship, you start with no princedom, 2 extra background points, and a Status of 2.
The base generation is 12. I'd recommend that you max out generation with background points if you want to be on par with the other characters.
You will have to have some connection to one of the two major factions in Transylvania (the Tzimisce and the Tremere), which are represented by Radu or Vladimir Rustovich (the vovoide among vovoides) (Tzimsce), and Celestyn or Etrius (Tremere) respectively.
You can also start as a Caitiff if you really want to, but if you do that then you will have a permanent status of 0, a three-step bond and negative relationship with your sire, no extra background points, and no princedom.
The reason for this is because while Caitiff DO and always have existed, they tend to not exist for long because their sires or other vampires kill them, especially in older times (where we are now), so if you want to be a caitiff you're also going to have to accept that you're in a really bad place freedom wise (since that's the only way you'd still be alive).
The time period is around the 11th century.
Oh, and Steeple does not count as a caitiff since he was not rejected by his sire right away and has learnt the way of Malkavians. He's just a (sort of) independent faction-wise, which Vladivostok was as well.
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A Tremere would have an excellent tie in with Steeple's character (and I would write it so that you two were very closely connected).
You would be one of Celestyn's childer (Celestyn being the master librarian of Ceoris).
It also wouldn't be a problem with Lucien anymore, since Lucien is not really a Tzimisce any more (and if any of the real Tzimisce found out what he was, they would literally nuke him from orbit).
What you have right now (the disicpline combination) is just the gangrel discipline combination, so you can be that if you want.
A brujah could also work, I think a tie-in with Heldric could be possible
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What I always thought would be hilarious is that when Lucien's dad fell off a cliff randomly, it was actually a tremere stealing the tzmisce's future childer. That could work too.
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Why cant you be a member of Goratrix's team?
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Why cant you be a member of Goratrix's team?
Why would you want to? XD
A big reason is that Goratrix is basically one of the biggest bads in the game. Like, he's basically right under Kupala in terms of your major opponents.
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Why would you want to? XD
A big reason is that Goratrix is basically one of the biggest bads in the game. Like, he's basically right under Kupala in terms of your major opponents.
cuz he so.cool xD
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Anyway, Cdrive, what character concept are you thinking of going with?
Don't worry about creating a sheet in a day or anything, when we did this it took everyone about an average of a week to finish their characters.
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Anyway, Cdrive, what character concept are you thinking of going with?
Don't worry about creating a sheet in a day or anything, when we did this it took everyone about an average of a week to finish their characters.
I'm going with Former Sellsword *In the Dark Ages, that means Mercenary.*
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No, seriously.
I mean, sellsword is such a tame concept and this is a chronicle that spans a millenium. Sellsword doesn't cut it, haha. Concept isn't just your profession, it's what you are. Look to Anton's evil servant of god, Steeple's mad schemer, Kiril's dark prince, Lucien's Vovoide/Koldun, etc. Give me something that you can work with. A sellsword is just kinda weak.
Unless you go with an Assamite, but i've disallowed them for reasons that become increasingly obvious as the story goes along (you'd hate me if I let you make an Assamite, haha).
Basically, think bigger. If you want a military character, then make a Grand Marshal, not a peon, is what i'm saying.
EDIT: Ohhhh kay, nevermind, you said "former" sellsword. Uh, yeah, that works, haha. Still, what are his defining characteristics? Why would his sire have embraced him?
Is he a particularly brutal or savage fighter? Is he cunning? An excellent leader?
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No, seriously.
I mean, sellsword is such a tame concept and this is a chronicle that spans a millenium. Sellsword doesn't cut it, haha. Concept isn't just your profession, it's what you are. Look to Anton's evil servant of god, Steeple's mad schemer, Kiril's dark prince, Lucien's Vovoide/Koldun, etc. Give me something that you can work with. A sellsword is just kinda weak.
Unless you go with an Assamite, but i've disallowed them for reasons that become increasingly obvious as the story goes along (you'd hate me if I let you make an Assamite, haha).
Basically, think bigger. If you want a military character, then make a Grand Marshal, not a peon, is what i'm saying.
EDIT: Ohhhh kay, nevermind, you said "former" sellsword. Uh, yeah, that works, haha. Still, what are his defining characteristics? Why would his sire have embraced him?
Is he a particularly brutal or savage fighter? Is he cunning? An excellent leader?
He is considered a BRUTAL man by his era, hell the Inquisition would say "HOLY Fark DUDE!" if they saw half the shit he does to people. All for coins in his life and after embrace, his sire...He had managed to force a Vampire to resort to drinking from him as he had managed some good wounds with a sword and his own bare hands, but he was nearly killed from that, were it not for the arrival of the one who would be his sire who, using the distraction offered, killed the vampire before he could drain John dry. He was woozy and yet, despite wounds he stood up, curious he asked: 'Why would you fight a Vampire by yourself? You can barely stand and yet you seem to think yourself able to take me on when someone far weaker nearly killed you?'
John's answer? 'The only thing a misbegotten sod like me could hope for, a senseless death.'...Seeing that as a terrible waste of a man, he decided to embrace him, which led to John becoming a Brujah and bringing with him that Undying Loyalty borne of him being a sellsword who kept his word and did the job to the letter and spirit.
EDIT: Changed details.
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So you're set on being a Caitiff (despite the negative consequences of such that I pointed out)?
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So you're set on being a Caitiff (despite the negative consequences of such that I pointed out)?
Actually...yeah...gonna change that to Brujah and remove the 'Hate' from the Sire bit. He'd fit in not just with the Coterie that is the party, but also in Modern Day when Brujah just lose their way and become little more than violent punks.
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He is considered a BRUTAL man by his era, hell the Inquisition would say "HOLY Fark DUDE!" if they saw half the shit he does to people.
Hahaha have you seen the torture Anton's done to people? Hell, Steeple & Lucien have done some twisted stuff for that matter. (like to Barabus :p)
You'll have to be considerably more extreme than just ripping a guy's throat out with your teeth if you want them to consider you badass.
Kiril, on the other hand, is totally civilized. ^_^
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Hahaha have you seen the torture Anton's done to people? Hell, Steeple & Lucien have done some twisted stuff for that matter. (like to Barabus :p)
You'll have to be considerably more extreme than just ripping a guy's throat out with your teeth if you want them to consider you badass.
Kiril, on the other hand, is totally civilized. ^_^
To be fair, it wasn't just that he ripped the man's throat out, he also *mind you as a HUMAN, he wasn't embraced yet* beat a vampire to death with his bare hands, gouging eyes and smashing his head until it stopped resembling a skull and looked more like a watermelon after a Gallagher show.
EDIT: Ignore this bit, I wasn't thinking that well. *Facepalms with the Speed of Kenyans*
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Rules check Drak, can a human beat a vampire to death with their bare hands? XD
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It's literally impossible
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Like, maybe if the vampire was already basically dead, and you cheated and brought some spiked knuckles, and it had no blood whatsoever, and you had all of your physical stats maxed out.
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And like, you hit it from behind while it wasn't looking.
But if its fangs were already in your neck? Game over
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And like, you hit it from behind while it wasn't looking.
But if its fangs were already in your neck? Game over
Yeah, could say saved by the Sire instead. *Was trying to type out stuff but since there were responses I had to restart* though circumstances CAN happen, only a Vampire could resist the bite.
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There's also the fact that vampires take half damage from bashing (the type that you would be dealing), that they soak what little bashing damage they receive with their stamina, that they can heal the damage they take with blood, that they can boost their own physical stats with blood, that they have disciplines, that they have fangs with which they can grab you and drain your blood.
Just for some reference, here's the math behind that:
Your max strength is 5 as a human.
The difficulty on a damage roll is 6, so a 50% chance of success. 5*0.5= an average of 2.5 successes on average. That's an average of 2.5 damage per hit. This will be halved to 1.25 damage.
Then that 1.25 damage will be resisted by the vampire's stamina (let's assume a weak ass stamina of 2). 0.5*2=1.
So 1.25-1= 0.25 damage. You'll be dealing an average of 0.25 damage per round if you have literally the highest brawl damage allowed (barehanded).
The vampire can, if he's a very weak vampire, heal at least 1-2 health levels of damage each round.
In return, he, who has fangs, can damage you for strength-1 aggravated damage once a round (which you can't soak), and once the fangs are in you both 1: Can't fight back and 2: You'll lose blood, which he can use to increase his strength or heal himself, and which will deal about 3 lethal damage (which you also can't soak) per round to you.
You see the difference in capability right? You don't win a fight against a vampire if you're barehanded.
Hell, the vampire even has three more health levels than you do.
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There's also the fact that vampires take half damage from bashing (the type that you would be dealing), that they soak what little bashing damage they receive with their stamina, that they can heal the damage they take with blood, that they can boost their own physical stats with blood, that they have disciplines, that they have fangs with which they can grab you and drain your blood.
Just for some reference, here's the math behind that:
Your max strength is 5 as a human.
The difficulty on a damage roll is 6, so a 50% chance of success. 5*0.5= an average of 2.5 successes on average. That's an average of 2.5 damage per hit. This will be halved to 1.25 damage.
Then that 1.25 damage will be resisted by the vampire's stamina (let's assume a weak ass stamina of 2). 0.5*2=1.
So 1.25-1= 0.25 damage. You'll be dealing an average of 0.25 damage per round if you have literally the highest brawl damage allowed (barehanded).
The vampire can, if he's a very weak vampire, heal at least 1-2 health levels of damage each round.
In return, he, who has fangs, can damage you for strength-1 aggravated damage once a round (which you can't soak), and once the fangs are in you both 1: Can't fight back and 2: You'll lose blood, which he can use to increase his strength or heal himself, and which will deal about 3 lethal damage (which you also can't soak) per round to you.
You see the difference in capability right? You don't win a fight against a vampire if you're barehanded.
Hell, the vampire even has three more health levels than you do.
And I just got an idea on HOW he even got involved: He managed to actually FORCE the Vampire to have to drain him, which was a nasty surprise and he was saved BY his sire who has been trying to kill him for some time, and upon seeing the man try determinedly to hang on to dear life and stand up, despite the fact that fighting him would end in less than a second *which is even less than he had for the first guy* it led to the Embrace.
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Alright, that's more reasonable. So how would you behave as a prince?
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Alright, that's more reasonable. So how would you behave as a prince?
Fair towards most people *As in, he will hear people out unless its a straight Masquerade Violation, in which case he goes from kind to murderous in seconds* Would legitimately weigh costs of 'Protect the people I rule over' vs 'Righting Wrongs done to a subject.', While at the same time having Mercenaries hired by 'Eloquent' subjects as he is less scalpel and more sledgehammer, feeling that he might end up causing a war if he were getting personally involved which would fling the Masquerade away faster than he can toss a pillow.
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Masquerade does not exist yet, neither does the Camarilla or the Sabbat.
This is also in Transylvania, where the great Tzimisce Vovoides rule openly and uncontested (because no one dares contest them except the Tremere).
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Masquerade does not exist yet, neither does the Camarilla or the Sabbat.
This is also in Transylvania, where the great Tzimisce Vovoides rule openly and uncontested (because no one dares contest them except the Tremere).
Oh yeah...*facepalms* He would work with the Vovoides under that principle of 'Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.'
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Oh man Heldric will love you.
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Note that instead of the masquerade, the traditions exist (which are almost basically the same thing, except that the degree to which they are enforced depends entirely on the Prince enforcing them):
http://www.bountyheadbebop.com/forum/index.php?topic=1448.0
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This is also in Transylvania, where the great Tzimisce Vovoides rule openly and uncontested (because no one dares contest them except the Tremere).
And Steeple Carson Olaf Treveski the Fourth! ;D
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Oh yeah...*facepalms* He would work with the Vovoides under that principle of 'Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.'
Well, uh, you guys kind of all work for the Tzimisce vovoides in general, and your sire would be closely allied with the vovoides, and if you didn't have connections with the vovoides you wouldn't be a Prince - because non-vovoide approved princes only exist if they have the protection of something epic, or if they're incredibly powerful and fearsome in their own regard - like Basilio, who conquered Sofia with the help of an alliance he made with the Tzimisce vovoides who were afraid of Gabor and the Dacian, and with Noriz (a notorious Diablerist and sire to probably half the Tzimisce in Transylvania), held it with the authority of Constantinople and Michael, and protected it with his crew of elder ghouls, his personal retinue, his childer (whose reputations he built up), and his own reputation as a pre-eminent Abyss Mystic and powerful, influential Lasombra.
There are also some select other princes that hold it based on power and sires alone - like the Prince of Buda-Pest Vencel Rikard, who holds Buda-Pest because of his sire Bulscu, a legendary depraved and powerful Methuselah known for his betrayal of the Brujah to the Ventrue (he was one of those personally responsible for shattering Carthage).
Kiril only holds Sofia because of Boukephos' blessing and Basilio's support.
Steeple only holds Tihuta Pass by Radu's good grace
Lucien only holds his (extremely extensive) lands because he has destroyed Sandor and assumed his identity.
If Steeple's close connections to the Tremere were revealed, he would lose Tihuta Pass and be made an enemy of the Tzimisce. If he would fail to escape he'd be taken in, his ghouls and servants would be destroyed, and he would be tortured for information and then eventually turned into a Vozhd's toilet.
If Lucien was discovered then literally every Koldun in Transylvania except for Yorak would join together in an effort to destroy him (likely reducing half of Transylvania to ash in the process).
If it wasn't for Basilio's strength and the Dacian's reputation (Basilio having consumed the Dacian), Kiril would just go to sleep one morning and never wake up.
Basically, you can't really be an enemy of the vovoides. I mean, you can, but if you ever take any action against them and it's linked back to you, then it doesn't really end well. So, not really any point in making an enemy of the vovoides when most of the story is you helping them (and yourself, since you share the same goals).
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Oh, also, if you plan to be spectacularly brutal, i'd suggest you read through some of the fight scene's we've already had - I try to describe things as brutally as possible (while keeping it palatable), I don't want you to go in doing something that's comparatively tame and being disappointed at the lack of reaction.
Oh, and I assume you meant Depraved, not deprived?
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Everyone likes Anton tho
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Oh, also, if you plan to be spectacularly brutal, i'd suggest you read through some of the fight scene's we've already had - I try to describe things as brutally as possible (while keeping it palatable), I don't want you to go in doing something that's comparatively tame and being disappointed at the lack of reaction.
Oh, and I assume you meant Depraved, not deprived?
No way. Deprived is so much more interesting! XD
But seriously, if you're thinking your character is in this to be cool, awesome, &or powerful, it's not that kind of game.
The elders are all ninety times stronger and better and smarter than you, and the regular npcs are merely thirty times better than you. So far we mostly "lose fights until an NPC saves us so we're indebted to him" or "get manipulated into doing stuff by indescribably omnipotent demons"
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No way. Deprived is so much more interesting! XD
But seriously, if you're thinking your character is in this to be cool, awesome, &or powerful, it's not that kind of game.
The elders are all ninety times stronger and better and smarter than you, and the regular npcs are merely thirty times better than you. So far we mostly "lose fights until an NPC saves us so we're indebted to him" or "get manipulated into doing stuff by indescribably omnipotent demons"
I feel Deprived still works as well given its what he would call himself, referring to what he ONCE had, arrogance and ignorance in equal measure. He feels his deprivation has led to greater heights, hence his taking of the title 'Deprived' Of course with these broadened Horizons: He DEFINITELY got a few ideas...Some of the brutality of his actions are as follows:
'Plucking a man's eye out and forcing him to eat it after ripping out all his teeth one at a time.'
'Stabbing limbs specifically in spots meant to both disable them and cause the most amount of pain, often moving nerves with his fingers as to increase the feeling of horrible pain.'
But if one were in favor of Brutality in the heat of combat?:
'Ripping off a man's arm, then proceeding to rip out the guy's ribs and use that as a club/knife combo.'
'Going Vlad the Impaler on people "What can I say? He is an innovator!" his answer was to someone asking "Why are you carrying Pikes?" '
'Watching people burn, and forcing THOSE burning people to watch as he kills others in front of him the QUICK way.'
While all these happened 'Under Orders', it was his choice to make it as sadistic and painful a way to go as possible. Not feeling joy in how he kills them horribly but feeling joy in that he is MAKING pain hardly seen like an artist would his craft. He wishes to find ways to make horrible deaths MORE possible, new ways to put someone into their death. *And by Inquisition, I mean Spanish Inquisition.* However, those actions are meant to cover for quite a few WEAKNESSES.
That said, yeah Depraved makes more sense. Given his actions are pretty damn horrifying.
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Oh hey, that ripping out the rib and killing someone with it reminds me of Logen from the first law series (I think he did that at one point, right Aman?)
You'll get to meet the real Dracula (Vlad the Impaler) in the story later on, sure you'll be chums.
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Oh hey, that ripping out the rib and killing someone with it reminds me of Logen from the first law series (I think he did that at one point, right Aman?)
You'll get to meet the real Dracula (Vlad the Impaler) in the story later on, sure you'll be chums.
At the very least, Vlad'd probably get a laugh from a cold blooded murderer fanboying on him.
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One thing i'm concerned about is that it seems like your character is destined to be a really superficial one - is there something to him beyond just inflicting mindless pain on others? Why does he inflict pain? Is there some higher purpose (ala Anton) or does he just do it for shits and giggles (ala Lucien)? Does he glorify it, is it something he feels he needs?
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One thing i'm concerned about is that it seems like your character is destined to be a really superficial one - is there something to him beyond just inflicting mindless pain on others? Why does he inflict pain? Is there some higher purpose (ala Anton) or does he just do it for shits and giggles (ala Lucien)? Does he glorify it, is it something he feels he needs?
As I mentioned: He does this for a higher purpose though he does it more than just for 'discovering new forms of pain', he also does it because he feels it is the purest form of honestly.
"True honesty is a rare thing my friend...a conversation with close friends, there's one thing that is missing: What people actually think about one another...You can hide behind a mask, whether literal or metaphor but the one thing those can never hide: Is pain, with a simple twist and flick.-" *Screaming noise* "-Suddenly, there goes the feelings of invincibility, and a lot of lies we build up around ourselves suddenly crumble just as suddenly as wall with a swamp as its foundation...Now then...in interest of maintaining that comforting thought of knowing regular pain...tell me what I need to know, not what I WANT to hear, what I want to KNOW...otherwise I will make you wish not just TO DIE, But do so in one of the comforting ways I've shown prior. Now...Speak before I refine my art."
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No way. Deprived is so much more interesting! XD
But seriously, if you're thinking your character is in this to be cool, awesome, &or powerful, it's not that kind of game.
The elders are all ninety times stronger and better and smarter than you, and the regular npcs are merely thirty times better than you. So far we mostly "lose fights until an NPC saves us so we're indebted to him" or "get manipulated into doing stuff by indescribably omnipotent demons"
Hey, i'm 100% in favour of someone achieving domination through clever fighting (like Steeple's whole second sidequest).
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Alright, so on your path - care to explain Honourable accord? It seems like an odd choice, all things considered, though i'm surprised to find that none of the sins preclude "being a horrifically sadistic butcher and torturer", and question the beliefs of whoever wrote that particular path.
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Alright, so on your path - care to explain Honourable accord? It seems like an odd choice, all things considered, though i'm surprised to find that none of the sins preclude "being a horrifically sadistic butcher and torturer", and question the beliefs of whoever wrote that particular path.
Honorable Accord has nothing to do with being a good person! >:( It's only about keeping your word, as it makes you the worthier man. Vampires are imbued with a special responsibility by their sheer strength. Only one who has mastered the self has the right to hold onto it.
Or that's at least what Roy would say. XDOh hey, that ripping out the rib and killing someone with it reminds me of Logen from the first law series (I think he did that at one point, right Aman?)
You'll get to meet the real Dracula (Vlad the Impaler) in the story later on, sure you'll be chums.
Ohhhhh yeah. :D
No way. Deprived is so much more interesting! XD
But seriously, if you're thinking your character is in this to be cool, awesome, &or powerful, it's not that kind of game.
The elders are all ninety times stronger and better and smarter than you, and the regular npcs are merely thirty times better than you. So far we mostly "lose fights until an NPC saves us so we're indebted to him" or "get manipulated into doing stuff by indescribably omnipotent demons"
Yeah like Anton just fought an elder, dialberized him, thinking I iz awesome, turns out it was a trick and now he gotta go ask a 4th gen vamp for help in not losing his soul. XD
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Honorable Accord has nothing to do with being a good person! >:( It's only about keeping your word, as it makes you the worthier man. Vampires are imbued with a special responsibility by their sheer strength. Only one who has mastered the self has the right to hold onto it.
EXACTLY: Just because you are a man *or Vampire* of your word, doesn't mean you are a KIND soul, he follows his sire's orders to letter and spirit of said orders, and if he's doing some serious amounts of torture, he will stop if someone gives him what he needs to know.
As for humanity *which might well be lower* Think of it like this in a similar example from a different tabletop game: Honsou from WH40k is probably the most HUMANE and HUMAN of the Chaos Lords...And that makes his actions all the more horrific as he is doing them with full awareness and in spite of his very well noticed humanity.
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Now onto the topic of Merits and Flaws: To ask the storyteller if I could take the following.
Considering I have 15 Freebie Points and want enough to increase his stats just a little bit...
MENTAL MERITS: Code of Honor *COST 2 Points* Light Sleeper *COST: 2 Points*
PHYSICAL MERITS: Efficient Feeding *COST: 3 Points* Huge Size *COST: 4 points*
SUPERNATURAL MERITS: Lucky *COST: 3 Points* Antitoxin Blood *COST: 1 Point*
Now for Flaws to help sort that out more...
MENTAL FLAW: Vengeful *GAIN: 2 Points*
PHYSICAL FLAW: Vulnerability to Silver *GAIN: 2 Points*
That leaves me 5 points to spend. If approved that is...Which I will throw 4 points toward putting a point in Survival and Brawl. And that last remaining point toward Willpower.
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I think you'll find it a lot easier to fill out your character sheet if you just quote the character creation page and then post it here. I would also prefer that since that's the format i'll be posting on your final character page, and I would prefer not to have to enter everything in myself.
What is your code of honour?
Also, you have 15 freebie points worth of merits listed there, so you would only have 4 freebie points to spend.
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I think you'll find it a lot easier to fill out your character sheet if you just quote the character creation page and then post it here. I would also prefer that since that's the format i'll be posting on your final character page, and I would prefer not to have to enter everything in myself.
What is your code of honour?
Also, you have 15 freebie points worth of merits listed there, so you would only have 4 freebie points to spend.
Right, so subtract the Willpower, and as for the code of honor? He would never attack a mortal unless there was good cause behind it. *A wrongfully made Angry Mob attacking an innocent, A cult dedicated to the destruction of many mortals for the sake of anything but the Tzimise Viviodes and even then he'd ask if that is proper or if its an aberration. Etc.*
Also I will throw in the Sheet after it is finalized in quoting so as to give him something to work with. *Thank you Tabs :D*
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No way. Deprived is so much more interesting! XD
How about the Derived? ;D
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How about the Derived? ;D
XD nah that'd be the Derivative.
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CD, you really don't want to start with a 3 willpower. Most of us padded our sheets with 9-10 points of flaws. You dont have to, but its prolly help
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Yeah, a three willpower will mean that you'll spend most of the adventure fighting your coterie mates instead of helping them, haha
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Yeah, a three willpower will mean that you'll spend most of the adventure fighting your coterie mates instead of helping them, haha
Hrm...then perhaps this might help that out:
PHYSICAL FLAWS *Addendum*: Glowing Eyes *GAIN: 3 Points*
SOCIAL FLAWS *NEW*: Enemy *GAIN: 3 points*
Adding those 6 points to Willpower if approved, we'll hammer out the details of my enemy or enemies.
EDIT: I put down 7 instead of 6 originally because my maths skill is terrible, too bad THAT isn't a flaw for VtM...Its the proper number.
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NAME: Johnathan Melrowe Jacobim *AKA John the Deprived*
Player: cdrive1
Chronicle: Transylvanian Chronicles
Nature: Soldier
Sire: Edward Mordred *Who appreciates John*
Demeanor: Architect
Clan: Brujah
Generation: 8th *Sire was 7th Gen*
Concepts: Former Sellsword
Coterie: *What do I put here?*
Attributes:
Physical: Strength: 4 Dexterity: 2 Stamina: 3
Mental: Perception: 3 Intelligence: 2 Wits: 3
Social: Charisma: 2 Manipulation: 1 Appearance: 3
Abilities:
Talents: Alertness: 3 Brawl: 4 Dodge: 2 Athletics: 3 Empathy: 1
Skills: Etiquette: 3 Melee: 2 Survival: 2 Security: 2 Performance: 1
Knowledges: Investigation: 2 Law: 1 Medicine: 2
Disciplines: Potence *3*, Celerity *2*, Presence *1*
Virtues: Courage: 3 Conscience: 2 Self-Control: 5
Advantages:
Beneficial: Generation: 4 *Puts him at 8th* Mentor: 2 Influence: 1
Adversarial:
Path: Path of Honorable Accord *7*
Permanent Willpower: 9
Temporary Willpower: *Should I leave this blank?*
Health: 10/10 *Or whatever the number is for him*
Blood Pool: 15 *8th Gen*
Points per Turn: 3 *See above*
Merits:
MENTAL MERITS: Code of Honor *COST 2 Points* Light Sleeper *COST: 2 Points*
PHYSICAL MERITS: Efficient Feeding *COST: 3 Points* Huge Size *COST: 4 points*
SUPERNATURAL MERITS: Lucky *COST: 3 Points* Antitoxin Blood *COST: 1 Point*
Flaws:
MENTAL FLAW: Vengeful *GAIN: 2 Points*
PHYSICAL FLAWS: Vulnerability to Silver *GAIN: 2 Points* Glowing Eyes *GAIN: 3 Points*
SOCIAL FLAW: Enemy *GAIN: 3 Points*
Magic: *Leaving this, Combat, and Armor Blank as I assume the Storyteller will fill those out no trouble?*
Combat:
Armor:
Expanded Backgrounds: *Going to ask with DM to make sure things are approved.*
Here is the sheet: Is this approved Drak?
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1: You only appointed 6 points to your primary attribute (Physical), you actually get 7.
2: In order to have any ability above 4, you have to raise it to 3 first and then spend freebie points on that ability to raise it further. So you cannot start with a brawl of 4, unless you spend 2 freebie points on the skill and alocate that extra Talent point elsewhere.
3: It's frankly not worth putting points into Mentor, because your sire will already be your mentor (since you've chosen to have a good relationship with him).
4: Light sleeper costs 3 points, not 2, and you should note that i've made a revision to vampire daytime rules - the daytime penalties only apply when the vampire is directly exposed to sunlight. Otherwise, there are no dice penalties and no rolls to stay awake during the day. Heldric started out with Light Sleeper but I let Forge change his merit after I made these revisions.
5: What kind of enemy are you thinking of getting?
6: Please specify all freebie point expenditures.
7: Finally, please, please put your information into a quoted version of the real character sheet, I made that sheet the way I did for the convenience of people making a vampire character and for the fact that it is a thousand times easier to work with than the plainer format you're using.
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1: You only appointed 6 points to your primary attribute (Physical), you actually get 7.
2: In order to have any ability above 4, you have to raise it to 3 first and then spend freebie points on that ability to raise it further. So you cannot start with a brawl of 4, unless you spend 2 freebie points on the skill and alocate that extra Talent point elsewhere.
3: It's frankly not worth putting points into Mentor, because your sire will already be your mentor (since you've chosen to have a good relationship with him).
4: Light sleeper costs 3 points, not 2, and you should note that i've made a revision to vampire daytime rules - the daytime penalties only apply when the vampire is directly exposed to sunlight. Otherwise, there are no dice penalties and no rolls to stay awake during the day. Heldric started out with Light Sleeper but I let Forge change his merit after I made these revisions.
5: What kind of enemy are you thinking of getting?
6: Please specify all freebie point expenditures.
7: Finally, please, please put your information into a quoted version of the real character sheet, I made that sheet the way I did for the convenience of people making a vampire character and for the fact that it is a thousand times easier to work with than the plainer format you're using.
Right: WOW this is complicated OK Answering a few questions as best I can:
So it seems I can only raise a set of points to 3 and cannot raise it above that with the ability points I have but with Freebie Points *Facepalm* Sorry about that, I'll change that accordingly. As for enemy *Given that I chose the 3 point version* It'd have to be equivalent *Since 5 would mean a Methuselah or something similar and 4 would probably mean an Elder or two* Probably an Elder, maybe the Childe of the vampire that nearly killed John and hates him because if he wasn't there to distract him, his Sire wouldn't have been killed by the one who became John's Sire. If I am wrong, go ahead and say so and we can continue trying to iron that out.
I'll edit that cost ACCORDINGLY for Light Sleeper *Sorry, was referencing THIS: http://www.thesubnet.com/portal/wod/vtm20/CreationMM.html *
I will tell where I put Freebie Points at the BOTTOM of the Sheet when I actually get THAT one done.
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Name: Johnathan Melrowe Jacobim *AKA: John the Deprived*
Player: cdrive1
Chronicle: Transylvanian Chronicles
Nature: Soldier
Sire: Edward Mordred
Demeanor: Architect
Clan: Brujah
Generation 8th
Concept: Former Sellsword
Coterie:
Attributes
Physical
Strength: 4; Dexterity: 2; Stamina: 4
Social
Charisma: 2; Manipulation: 1; Appearance: 3
Mental
Perception: 3; Intelligence: 2; Wits: 3
Abilities
Talents
Alertness: 3; Awareness; 1; Athletics: 3; Brawl: 4; Dodge: 2; Empathy: 2; Expression: 0; Intimidation: 0; Leadership: 0; Streetwise: 0; Subterfuge: 0
Skills
Animal Ken: 0; Crafts: 0; Riding/Drive: 0; Etiquette: 3; Firearms: 0; Melee: 2; Performance: 1; Security: 2; Stealth: 0; Survival: 2
Knowledge
Academics: 0; Politics: 0; Finance: 0; Investigation: 2; Linguistics: 0; Medicine: 2; Occult: 0; Science: 0; Law: 1
Disciplines
Potence *3* Celerity *2* Presence *1*
Virtues
Courage: 3
Conscience/Conviction: 2
Self-control/Instinct: 5
Advantages
Backgrounds
Beneficial
Allies: 1; Influence: 2; Mentor: XX; Resources: XX; Contacts: XX; Generation: 4; Herd: XX; Retainers: XX; Status: XX
Adversarial
(Leave this section of your character sheet blank. This part is here purely for my use. If you gain any enemies or adverse backgrounds during your in-game time, they will show up here.)
Humanity/Path: 7
WillPower
Permanent Willpower: 8
Temporary Willpower: XX
Health
Full; No penalty; 10/10
Blood pool
Points: 15
Points per turn: 3
Merits and Flaws
Merit: Code of Honor; Type: Mental; Cost: 2
Merit: Light Sleeper; Type: Mental; Cost: 3
Merit: Efficient Feeding; Type: Physical; Cost: 3
Merit: Huge Size; Type: Physical; Cost: 4
Merit: Lucky; Type: Supernatural; Cost: 3
Merit: Antitoxin Blood; Type: Supernatural; Cost: 1
Flaw: Vengeful; Type: Mental; Cost: 2
Flaw: Vulnerability to Silver; Type: Physical; Cost: 2
Flaw: Glowing Eyes; Type: Physical; Cost: 3
Flaw: Enemy; Type: Social; Cost: 3
Magic
Rituals
XX
Paths
Path of Honorable Accord
Derangements
XX
Languages
Combat
Weapon/Attack: Broadsword; Difficulty: -2; Damage: 3 Lethal; Lethal Range: XX Rate: XX Clip: XX Conceal: N
(More will be added as needed)
Armor
Class: Light; Rating: 3; Penalty: None
Expanded backgrounds
(Here you provide descriptions of your background)
Allies: He has only one ally from his days as a Sellsword, a Blacksmith who he currently retains the services of, John only knows him by his moniker: 'Merchant of Death' as he's the only one who would sell him weapons and torture devices *even ones with Exacting Specifications* without questions, being a Ghoul in the service of his Sire.
Contacts: XX
Influence: He knows to tread lightly and avoid angering people, his Sire is rather social in of itself and because of him maintaining appearances, he is seen as 'OK' to be around by those unaware of his rather horrible activities and how brutal he can be in a fight.
Herd: XX
Retainers: XX
Resources: XX
Status: XX
Other: His sire was 7th Generation, hence he is an 8th generation vampire as an end result.
Possessions
Gear (Carried):
A set of armor that is old but well cared for, a set of chainmail which promotes his highly mobile fighting style while giving adequate defense.
A broadsword with a flexible grip which allows him to wield it one handed, it comes at the cost of weight which reduces the power of slashes.
Equipment (Owned):
A good number of Gold Coins from his profession and from those he has slain, his reasoning for taking said gold being, 'They won't need it where they're going.'
A very humble home, being a simple man, he only asked that his home have a basement with sound cancelling charms so as to prevent screams from escaping the room. While he does have the simple items you would expect a peasant to have, he also owns 5 different torture devices that are well known, and 3 that are recent creations from his ally.
Vehicles: XX
Feeding grounds: XX
Blood bonds/Vinculi
Bound to: XX (Rating: XX)
Havens
Location: XX
Description: XX
History
His story till now: John was once a Sellsword, one of the most vicious to have ever walked the earth: Having a Penchant for cruelty would bring that idea to the forefront. However, he contrasts this heavily with a surprising amount of honor, taking orders without a complaint and twitch of rebellion and doing his job within the letter and spirit of said job. Until his last day as a living being...
He was hunting a man who had been a strange case: Having attacked villages and murdered all who were within, draining them of blood and leaving their withered corpses where they lay. He was hired to eliminate this threat and was told not to take his time with this one, the one thing he noted as he was sent, was that the gentleman in front of him seemed off. When he found the man, he was horrified as he was as pale as a corpse, his teeth dripping with fresh blood, and a set of wounds which were as fresh as the blood he drank, it was only through ducking that he wasn't killed in the first blow.
As the two fought, John had actually gotten some good wounds on the vampire, to the point where his target was forced to act quick, John had gone numb and only regained feeling when said target was forced off the neck, he felt lightheaded and weak. He saw his rescuer right there and then, who he would later know as Edward Mordred...In his lightheaded state, he drew his blade and got into a shaky battle position, almost certain to try and fight this unbeatable foe, when he spoke suddenly.
"Why would you fight a Vampire by yourself? You can barely stand and yet you seem to think yourself able to take me on when someone far weaker nearly killed you?" His rescuer had asked, curious as to the near suicidal nature of his actions, an answer that John wasn't expecting rolled from his mouth before he could stop it, something he had acknowledged at the same time as him realizing he had no true purpose, "The only thing a Misbegotten Sod like me deserves, a senseless death."
Of course, in his dazed state, he nearly fell over onto the floor as he said these words, and after a discussion, he was embraced. He 'Died' and became something new...something less, yet something more...From that point forward, he is now known as 'John the Deprived.'
Goals/Destiny: He wishes to create works that would last throughout the ages, though there is only one art he knows full well enough: Pain. He wishes to make new types and forms of pain as he believes a simple truth: Pain is Honesty in its purest form.
Why he is willing to join the cotterie (besides sire's request): To see more of the world, to find ideas for his work and spread his legacy of pain. To honor his Sire by making full use of his unlife.
Connection to other characters: XX
Description
Age: 42
Apparent Age: 32
Date of Birth: 1160
Death: 1192 by Vampirism
Hair: None *Used to be short black hair*
Eyes: Green
Race: White
Nationality: Spainish-English
Height: 6'10''
Weight: 300 pounds
Sex: Male
Physical description: A Bald man with an OK Appearance, something you would expect from a physically active 32 year old man, is never seen without his armor which has flecks of paint where a cross once was painted, a few tears and dents from battles he's been in, and a marking meant to signify that he works for the Tzimisce Vovoides. A good number of scars are also on said face and along his body.
EDIT: I added two points into my abilities *Spending the 4 remaining Freebie Points* *ALSO Edited Weapon and Armor description, had to match the details I mentioned, hence I lowered the sword's damage output to reflect the fact it has a flexible grip which allows it to be used with comparative ease. and made the armor chainmail.*
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Alright, You have four freebie points left to spend. When you're done with that we can look through your backgrounds.
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Also, your background could work well - the vampire you describe there would be one that had lost all of its humanity or other such path, becoming a wight (intelligent, feral vampire that exists only to kill and hunt). Another vampire would have hired you to kill the thing.
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Also, your background could work well - the vampire you describe there would be one that had lost all of its humanity or other such path, becoming a wight (intelligent, feral vampire that exists only to kill and hunt). Another vampire would have hired you to kill the thing.
There we go.
ALSO: Here is the expenditure of Freebie Points
FREEBIE POINTS SPENT: 25/25
15 + 10 *what the 4 flaws add up to* = 25
25 - 16 *6 Merits* = 9 points left
1 extra Point in Brawl *putting it at 4* 7 Points left
1 extra point into Awareness *Putting it at 1* 5 Points left
5 to Willpower *Putting it at 8* 0 Freebie Points left.
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Okay, statewisd you're covered, there are a few more details to iron out but I'll have to take care of that tomorrow
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Alright, I would like to once again point out that the spanish inquisition hasn't happened yet (it happens in about 300 years).
Also, you're extremely vague with the torture devices and such - care to be more specific?
Also, a suggestion: Psychological torture is significantly more impactful and interesting than the almost randomn physical torture that I feel you're going to be inflicting, in particular because of the character-focused nature of the game.
Also, your blacksmith: He would likely be one of your sire's ghouls. Because of the nature of your ally you can requisition armour and weaponry of any type and of the highest order available.
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http://www.thesubnet.com/portal/wod/dav/RolePlayCWMe.html
http://www.thesubnet.com/portal/wod/dav/RolePlayCWR.html
http://www.thesubnet.com/portal/wod/dav/RolePlayCWMi.html
http://www.thesubnet.com/portal/wod/vtda/RolePlayCA.html
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Yeah, it means no.
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Yeah, it means no.
What if you are a very tall vampire and Conceal in onside yourself. Like stab it down through the shoulder and into 1 leg. Sure you'd walk with a limp but no-one would suspect you had a concealed sword :)
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Ah, but what about the hilt?
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You could just wear mastercraft chainmail, which offers +3 armour against everything for no armour penalty >.>
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I want that >.>
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Okay, your character is complete. We will start Venetian nights today.
You will have been made prince of Temechburg (Berka might note that this was the city he was originally to be prince of). Please create a character thread in Vampire the Masquerade and make 5 empty posts in there.
Ooh, wait, actually, you have 64 experience to spend
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How do I go about doing all that?
http://www.bountyheadbebop.com/forum/index.php?topic=1346.msg76336#msg76336 (http://www.bountyheadbebop.com/forum/index.php?topic=1346.msg76336#msg76336)