Topic: Aman's Darkspawn Lasombra (Read 51001 times)

Not Aman · « **Reply #50 on:** January 04, 2015, 03:16:07 am »

Path of Night would also work, if it wasn't so anti coteries. XD

Drakilian · « **Reply #51 on:** January 04, 2015, 03:20:28 am »

Would have recommended it if it weren't for this one line.

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3 Aiding another. Compassion has no place in a vampire's undead heart.

Not Aman · « **Reply #52 on:** January 04, 2015, 03:25:16 am »

Quote from: Drakilian on January 04, 2015, 03:09:27 am

Huh, so based on what you said Road of the devil would be perfect - if it weren't for the absolutes that it followed (just because you are a servant of the abyss doesn't mean you want your char to be completely untrustworthy and impossible to cooperate with.) Do I have that right?

You know

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Road Rating   Minimum Wrongdoing For Conviction Roll
10   Refusing to sire new vampires.
9   Failing to pursue a new form of pleasure.
8   Failing to ride the wave of a frenzy.
7   Avoiding injury to others at the cost of your own pleasure.
6   Refusing to murder humans when it would be in your best interest.
5   Refusing to commit cruel acts that are in your best interest.
4   Refusing to tempt the virtuous when opportunity awaits.
3   Turning down a chance for material gain.
2   Acting altruistically.
1   Aiding servants of virtue, God, or similarly opposed powers.

Technically, it never says "never be honest, don't trust anyone."

Aside from church people. But you know, probably not gonna have those guys in our pack, right?

Sethaniel · « **Reply #53 on:** January 04, 2015, 12:23:55 pm »

wait, how are you a priest that also knows how to fight on horseback? XD

Drakilian · « **Reply #54 on:** January 04, 2015, 01:04:35 pm »

Quote from: Sethaniel on January 04, 2015, 12:23:55 pm

wait, how are you a priest that also knows how to fight on horseback? XD

Pfft, what were the templars?

Drakilian · « **Reply #55 on:** January 04, 2015, 01:05:09 pm »

Quote from: Aman on January 04, 2015, 03:25:16 am

You know
Technically, it never says "never be honest, don't trust anyone."

Aside from church people. But you know, probably not gonna have those guys in our pack, right?

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Cainites on the Devil's Road idealize callousness and excess.

Many Cainites believe that the Embrace irredeemably damns them. Some of these reason further that they have been turned into servants of the Devil (or whatever power of ultimate evil they believe in). It would logically follow, they add, that they have become vampires so that they should work evil on the Earth. If they refrain from acting like devils, they will no doubt be ultimately punished for shirking their duties. These debased Cainites follow the Via Diabolis -- the Devil's Road.

The very nature of a vampire's form can actually be taken as proof that the Cainites were created to do evil. After all, there's nothing intrinsically virtuous about preying on innocents. Therefore, evil must be innate to the undead, who are denied the fruits of Heaven. Interestingly enough, the followers of the Devil's Road often have no real contempt for the good and holy. They simply believe that they, as vampires, must oppose the forces of virtue to the best of their ability.

Of course, those of the Road of the Devil have difficulty dealing with vampires on other Roads. Any vampire who professes a philosophy other than theirs is clearly deluded or lying. Either way, the Devil's childer cannot trust the other Cainites. And, of course, no sane vampire on another Road would return the trust. The Via Diabolis is a lonely road. Fortunately (or perhaps not), others walk it with you.

Those on the Via Diabolis try to make their unlives as pleasurable as possible, at the expense of those who oppose them. They refrain from traits such as mercy and gentleness, finding them opposed to their role. They kill when necessary or "appropriate": and create new vampires whenever they like. After all, they need to increase the evil in the world. Duty is duty. They trust only those other vampires who openly agree with their philosophy. Above all, they avoid associating with priest and the like, their eternal foes.

Warning: Player characters on this Road can be very destructive to a chronicle by their very nature. The player who wishes to run a vampire on this Road should discuss it with the Storyteller and the rest of the troupe. If everyone agrees, the resulting roleplaying can be very intense; just keep your friends' sensibilities in mind.

Not Aman · « **Reply #56 on:** January 04, 2015, 01:06:15 pm »

Hmm, maybe not. XD

Not Aman · « **Reply #57 on:** January 04, 2015, 01:24:14 pm »

Wow, I probably just avoided this since my previous attempt sucked ass, but Path of cathari could work.

Drakilian · « **Reply #58 on:** January 04, 2015, 01:27:03 pm »

I'll point your attention to the 9th commandment of that path

Not Aman · « **Reply #59 on:** January 04, 2015, 01:29:24 pm »

Goddammit.

He'll never be a perfect adherent maybe?

Drakilian · « **Reply #60 on:** January 04, 2015, 01:30:13 pm »

Check this out:

http://torchlight.wikidot.com/lexicon:via-noctis

Not Aman · « **Reply #61 on:** January 04, 2015, 01:31:52 pm »

PERFECT. (as in, the fact that he can't corrupt mortals works soooo well with what I want)

Sethaniel · « **Reply #62 on:** January 04, 2015, 02:10:38 pm »

Quote from: Drakilian on January 04, 2015, 01:04:35 pm

Pfft, what were the templars?

Not priests. XD

Sethaniel · « **Reply #63 on:** January 04, 2015, 02:12:04 pm »

Quote from: Aman on January 04, 2015, 01:31:52 pm

PERFECT. (as in, the fact that he can't corrupt mortals works soooo well with what I want)

Uh, but the very first commandment is not to waste your time with other Kindred.

Not Aman · « **Reply #64 on:** January 04, 2015, 02:14:53 pm »

I think it means not to waste time trying to make them undamned.

Sethaniel · « **Reply #65 on:** January 04, 2015, 02:17:00 pm »

Quote from: Aman on January 04, 2015, 02:14:53 pm

I think it means not to waste time trying to make them undamned.

no, that's farther down the list.

Anything other Cainites are doing/ want you to do with them is a waste of time. It's a distraction from your work, which is to redeem the souls of mortals through pain and suffering.

It's not a path that can work with others.

Not Aman · « **Reply #66 on:** January 04, 2015, 02:18:54 pm »

Oh yeah, was reading it 1-10, not 10-1. Hmm

Drakilian · « **Reply #67 on:** January 04, 2015, 02:19:59 pm »

Quote from: Aman on January 04, 2015, 02:18:54 pm

Oh yeah, was reading it 1-10, not 10-1. Hmm

No, you were reading it right.

Not Aman · « **Reply #68 on:** January 04, 2015, 02:20:53 pm »

Quote from: Drakilian on January 04, 2015, 02:19:59 pm

No, you were reading it right.

No, as in, I was looking at 1 while Seth was looking at 10, and I missed it completely. XD

Drakilian · « **Reply #69 on:** January 04, 2015, 02:21:06 pm »

Quote from: Sethaniel on January 04, 2015, 02:17:00 pm

no, that's farther down the list.

Anything other Cainites are doing/ want you to do with them is a waste of time. It's a distraction from your work, which is to redeem the souls of mortals through pain and suffering.

It's not a path that can work with others.

That's only the very highest level of the path (which is ridiculously hard to get to anyway).

And it doesn't say you can't spend time on cainite affairs. Just that you can't spend much time on them. It's perfect for his char.

Drakilian · « **Reply #70 on:** January 04, 2015, 02:26:21 pm »

And besides, time is relative when you're looking at vampires. Vampires are immortal. If they spend fourty years dealing with cainite affairs but spread that over two centuries working on redeeming corrupt humans by torturing them, they're fulfilling their path nicely.

Sethaniel · « **Reply #71 on:** January 04, 2015, 03:38:40 pm »

You've already decided its perfect for Aman's character, so you're going to interpret it as however you want to make it fit.

Drakilian · « **Reply #72 on:** January 04, 2015, 03:42:17 pm »

Quote from: Sethaniel on January 04, 2015, 03:38:40 pm

You've already decided its perfect for Aman's character, so you're going to interpret it as however you want to make it fit.

The Fark do you mean interpretation? How else are you supposed to see this? I'm literally just taking these word-for-word here.

Sethaniel · « **Reply #73 on:** January 04, 2015, 03:55:44 pm »

The Fark do you mean you're "literally taking these word-for-word?" I'm the one who's taking it at face value, you're justifying what a vampire might consider "much" time. It literally says "Do not allow yourself to be distracted from your work."

It says that those on this path are only concerned with saving mortals through suffering. It's not a path that lends itself to working with other Cainites towards a common goal.

Sethaniel · « **Reply #74 on:** January 04, 2015, 03:57:48 pm »

But you've decided you want Aman's character to have this as his path, so go ahead and ignore that. I'm not the one who champions adherence to the rules above all.

Drakilian · « **Reply #75 on:** January 04, 2015, 04:11:08 pm »

Quote from: Sethaniel on January 04, 2015, 03:55:44 pm

The Fark do you mean you're "literally taking these word-for-word?" I'm the one who's taking it at face value, you're justifying what a vampire might consider "much" time. It literally says "Do not allow yourself to be distracted from your work."

It says that those on this path are only concerned with saving mortals through suffering. It's not a path that lends itself to working with other Cainites towards a common goal.

I'm not justifying anything, time has less meaning for immortals, and taken literally (for a vampire, not for you, for a vampire) the meaning is the one I gave. It's there to ensure the follower of the path doesn't make their ultimate goal power, control over other Cainites, or invest solely in Cainite politics - their ultimate goal needs be the personal salvation of humans.

It does, haha. Because you can have those Cainites help you to that common goal, or through the influence/power you gain with those cainites you can more easily and effectively continue working on your ultimate goal. The entire point of the pinnacle of that path is that you keep your priorities in order.

I'm not ignoring Fark-all Seth.

Not Aman · « **Reply #76 on:** January 04, 2015, 06:43:01 pm »

How much disciplines does Horsey Mc Badass get?

Also, thinking about changing resources. Hmm.

Drakilian · « **Reply #77 on:** January 04, 2015, 06:45:40 pm »

You don't get to know. He automatically gets 1 point of potence though, and rest assured i'm putting everything else in Fortitude.

Change it positively or change it negatively?

Not Aman · « **Reply #78 on:** January 04, 2015, 06:47:27 pm »

Quote from: Drakilian on January 04, 2015, 06:45:40 pm

You don't get to know. He automatically gets 1 point of potence though, and rest assured i'm putting everything else in Fortitude.

Change it positively or change it negatively?

Kickass

Negatively. Probably

Drakilian · « **Reply #79 on:** January 05, 2015, 01:56:00 pm »

1pt Ally/Retainer

Kickassia

A battlehorse black as the darkest night trained to ride into even the worst of battles, Kickassia was a gift from Basilio to his Childe as a replacement for the Ashen knight's older, inferior horse from his templar days, who could no longer stand the sight of her master when he returned to her a vampire. She is fierce and willful.

Not Aman · « **Reply #80 on:** January 05, 2015, 01:56:46 pm »

Woot woot. XD

BerkaZerka · « **Reply #81 on:** January 05, 2015, 02:05:02 pm »

Your steed. It disturbs me. Does it come with a sidecar?

Not Aman · « **Reply #82 on:** January 05, 2015, 02:05:35 pm »

BerkaZerka · « **Reply #83 on:** January 05, 2015, 02:06:08 pm »

Totally need the Quiller to draw us a nightmare steed with a sidecar!

Forge · « **Reply #84 on:** January 05, 2015, 02:07:04 pm »

maybe a sled which it can pull into battle...

Heldric rides a crocodile, not into battle, just for fun

BerkaZerka · « **Reply #85 on:** January 05, 2015, 02:22:03 pm »

Forge · « **Reply #86 on:** January 05, 2015, 02:25:04 pm »

hmm where did you find your cavalry sabre, the list you linked for BZ only had like 5 weapons on it...

Not Aman · « **Reply #87 on:** January 05, 2015, 02:26:02 pm »

Drak told me it's states.

The other weapon thing is http://www.thesubnet.com/portal/wod/wod/CombatMRW.html BZ asked for dark ages crap

Not Aman · « **Reply #88 on:** January 05, 2015, 03:35:41 pm »

Merit: Harbringer of the Abyss Type: Supernatural Cost: 3
You know what this is. ^_^
http://reference.l2fury.com/index.php/Harbinger_of_the_Abyss

Merit: Enchanting Voice Type: Physical Cost: 2
http://reference.l2fury.com/index.php/Enchanting_Voice

Merit: Discipline Prodigy (obtentration) Type: Supernatural Cost: 5
http://reference.l2fury.com/index.php/Discipline_Prodigy

Flaw: Death's Reflection Type: Supernatural Cost: 3
http://reference.l2fury.com/index.php/Death%27s_Reflection

Flaw: Beacon of the Unholy Type: Supernatural Cost: 2
http://reference.l2fury.com/index.php/Beacon_of_the_Unholy

Flaw: Repulsive to Animals Type: Supernatural Cost: 2
http://reference.l2fury.com/index.php/Repulsive_to_Animals

Flaw: Repelled by Crosses Type: Supernatural Cost: 3
reference.l2fury.com/index.php/Repelled_by_Crosses

Drakilian · « **Reply #89 on:** January 05, 2015, 04:52:59 pm »

Note that enchanting voice will NOT lower the difficulty of Dominate or Presence rolls. I thought you replaced that with something else, by the way?

Not Aman · « **Reply #90 on:** January 05, 2015, 04:57:42 pm »

Quote from: Drakilian on January 05, 2015, 04:52:59 pm

Note that enchanting voice will NOT lower the difficulty of Dominate or Presence rolls. I thought you replaced that with something else, by the way?

Originally it was courage, then I thought about changing it to well traveled, changed it to enchanting voice instead. It'll help with convincing people to confess

Forge · « **Reply #91 on:** January 05, 2015, 05:12:48 pm »

sooo... never enter Heldric's lair without prior warning or a giant albino ghoul croc might auto attack you due to your flaws

Drakilian · « **Reply #92 on:** January 05, 2015, 05:33:38 pm »

Nah, since it's a ghoul it's accustomed to vampires.

But, like, literally every single other animal will attack or run away from him. Even if you summon animals using "Beckoning call", they'll be terrifed of him and want to run away until he calms them down with Animalism.