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« Reply #800 on: September 06, 2016, 04:50:45 pm »

Is the post where I blew up at Raven deleted? I was just cringing at the spelling errors in some of my bigger posts, and it didn't seem to be where I thought it was. I still get autocomplete suggestions my phone learned from the story he didn't read, though.
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« Reply #801 on: September 06, 2016, 05:16:45 pm »

Not sure, but if it was three or four month back, then I may have clipped it last week.
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« Reply #802 on: September 06, 2016, 06:31:12 pm »

Not sure, but if it was three or four month back, then I may have clipped it last week.

If you clipped  Bucky's first "Call to Arms", it's definitely gone.
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« Reply #803 on: September 06, 2016, 08:24:15 pm »

If you clipped  Bucky's first "Call to Arms", it's definitely gone.

I think the first one got amputated into like five different pieces.
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« Reply #804 on: September 06, 2016, 09:49:52 pm »

I think the first one got amputated into like five different pieces.

That happens to all of your writing threads.

I do remember the first one being nuked and split into several chunks, but can't remember why. All the CYS drama sort of blurs together after awhile.

Did it involve tanks?
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« Reply #805 on: September 06, 2016, 10:00:12 pm »

Did it involve tanks?

Yes. I was angry with Raven because of his tanks stories, and I wanted to read up on what I said before so I could build on what I said more constructively now that it looks like Raven's putting in much more effort. I don't want to be the villain Raven has to prove wrong, since Raven seems to have taken enough of what I said to heart to finish a reasonably sized game. He's more mature than before, and I wanna give him more mature criticism as a reward. When I check out his vampire story, I'd like every point I made to be fresh in my mind and see what he's done to improve, if anything, and give him a less negative appraisal of shit, as well as shit I think he could do to improve, since I also kind of left him hanging by pointing out all the shit that was wrong without telling him anything about improving.
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« Reply #806 on: September 07, 2016, 12:18:12 am »

Can I get a tl;dr of the Kiel/3J/Malk/Taco drama so I can bash everyone in another drama alert?
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« Reply #807 on: September 07, 2016, 02:01:55 am »

Can I get a tl;dr of the Kiel/3J/Malk/Taco drama so I can bash everyone in another drama alert?

Whoa! I'd like one too. (A tldr, that is.)
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« Reply #808 on: September 07, 2016, 10:35:33 pm »

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« Reply #809 on: September 07, 2016, 10:59:12 pm »

That's quite the confession beta.
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« Reply #810 on: September 07, 2016, 11:14:12 pm »

That's quite the confession beta.

Pshh. KielStar is way to handsome to possibly be me. But if he wants to be polyamorous, so be it.
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« Reply #811 on: September 08, 2016, 03:47:33 am »

Kiel might've lost moderator status, but he won't be losing any tween popularity contests any time soon.
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« Reply #812 on: September 08, 2016, 05:20:06 am »

As predicted, I missed a shitton of hilarious drama, and apparently no one was competent enough to paste a URL into the wayback machine, even after it was helpfully linked for them. Smh.

That announcement is pretty clear-cut though, holy shit. I can't see even hysterical tweens not realizing tossing admin privileges around to random friends for giggles and then the running-away-with-fingers-in-the-ears to hide reaction after as not being major, major reasons someone is unfit to be an admin. The second one is just childish but the first...again, holy shit. No one would be willing to hang around or post their work on a site where that was considered acceptable practice.

Kiel meanwhile is a good writer and it's Farking ridiculous he'd ditch the site and his stories and entire cult/family/harem/whatever rather than deal with the issue privately and retain his dignity. Sounds like none of us would've even known about this if he'd handled it like an adult.

The Skype whining must've reached hilarious levels too just judging by the skewed tear streaked rage from children about things that weren't even remotely the issue.

Edit: oh, missed the new CYS thread,and he's posting again. Well, waybacking THAT one anyway until I get a chance to read it...

Edit2: Lol I'm going to be late for work but WOW, posting private PMs on a public forum. Farking classy.
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« Reply #813 on: September 08, 2016, 06:36:33 am »

no archive? :(
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« Reply #814 on: September 08, 2016, 07:35:07 am »

On another note, I swear the new Black-and-white picture Kingler has is Ryder.

It might be my racism against pretentious-looking white tweens all looking the same to me, but... Kingler looks like Ryder. Is this Ryder? Is this a thing now? Are we going to have three distinct Ryders?... Can I be wrong, please?
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« Reply #815 on: September 08, 2016, 07:52:21 am »

I thought we were supposed to assume all newbies were Ryder.
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« Reply #816 on: September 08, 2016, 07:54:42 am »

Yeah, but this might be a Super-Ryder.
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« Reply #817 on: September 08, 2016, 08:03:55 am »

I don’t think it’s Ryder, but I suppose he’s used different addresses before.
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« Reply #818 on: September 08, 2016, 09:59:45 am »

Tl;dr with the drama, Kiel did mod stuff that was bad and used examples of other mods doing it as excuses. I'm with 3J on this one, not really cool.
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« Reply #819 on: September 08, 2016, 10:19:14 am »

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« Reply #820 on: September 08, 2016, 04:53:32 pm »

On the way to work this morning I saw a cloud that looked like Ryder.
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« Reply #821 on: September 08, 2016, 06:50:48 pm »

I never liked Kiel
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« Reply #822 on: September 08, 2016, 07:07:34 pm »

I never liked Kiel

He's alright, but the way he acts is reminiscent of the dude who snitched on me, so fuggit.

Honestly, what this whole episode shows me more than anything is that racial prejudice is alive and well on CYS.

No Playa for mod? My services as a moderator were never even inquired about, and that's a clear example of systematic oppression.
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« Reply #823 on: September 08, 2016, 07:15:13 pm »

You're white, as is Kiel and most of everyone else on CYS XD
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« Reply #824 on: September 08, 2016, 07:20:16 pm »

Did you just assume my ethnicity?
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« Reply #825 on: September 08, 2016, 07:32:33 pm »

Kiel might've lost moderator status...

Lost? That sounds passive, like he had a hole in his pocket it fell out of. Sounds like there was a more active verb there, throwing hard and fast.
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« Reply #826 on: September 08, 2016, 07:38:59 pm »

Lost? That sounds passive, like he had a hole in his pocket it fell out of. Sounds like there was a more active verb there, throwing hard and fast.

Kiel was stripped?
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« Reply #827 on: September 08, 2016, 07:43:03 pm »

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« Reply #828 on: September 08, 2016, 07:44:13 pm »

Only if it could be done with a squirming 18 year old involved. That, was creepy, serious level of creepy.
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« Reply #829 on: September 08, 2016, 08:28:43 pm »

I'm LOVING the roast on Taco, BTW. Keep up the good fight
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« Reply #830 on: September 08, 2016, 08:43:46 pm »

I'm LOVING the roast on Taco, BTW. Keep up the good fight
Nothing against Taco, but if anyone but if she didn't act like a 12 year old girl most of the time she'd be banned like anyone else.
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« Reply #831 on: September 08, 2016, 08:48:27 pm »

I never liked Kiel
wow whenever I ragged on him you used to defend him. #lies
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« Reply #832 on: September 08, 2016, 08:55:05 pm »

So first Kiel gets stripped and then he gets ragged? Have you never heard of mercy?
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« Reply #833 on: September 08, 2016, 08:56:21 pm »

I'm LOVING the roast on Taco, BTW. Keep up the good fight

Don't encourage me. ;-; I was supposed to be finishing my story tonight, not mocking annoying kids.

(For real though, fun and games aside, valuable lessons have been learned about not sharing sensitive info with kids, or with...admins who hang out with those kids, I guess, because then they do thoughtless things like passing it around or posting it on forums with streaks of mascara streaming down their face. :/ )
 
Related, I've seen some stuff written by Kiel about me that was pretty lol, and it was funny and all but I really shouldn't have been directly shown it. Maybe this kind of thing, the etiquette and importance of privacy in an online community etc. is something we need an article about.
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« Reply #834 on: September 08, 2016, 09:05:04 pm »

Hey, I'd tag in for ya if CYS would let me post there, but until then it looks like someone has gotta pick up the slack.
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« Reply #835 on: September 08, 2016, 09:28:47 pm »

Anyone have taco's pms pm?
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« Reply #836 on: September 08, 2016, 09:29:48 pm »

How to act online 101:

1.Don't be a dick.
2. ??
3. Profit?
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« Reply #837 on: September 08, 2016, 09:32:02 pm »

Anyone have taco's pms pm?

Nope, but now I feel left out.  :( All I've got is her rant from politician
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« Reply #838 on: September 08, 2016, 10:21:57 pm »

Anyone have taco's pms pm?

Sent posted it, or part of it anyway. Since I'm now just quoting a post made on a forum, I can get off my soapbox a minute lol.

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Nothing confrontational or rude here, at least. But here's part of a PM.

(I know it goes against Mizal's code of juju, but Fark it, it's not the whole thing, and Taco decided to PM it to everyone anyway because she knew 3J would delete it, so it sure as hell ain't private.)

Nothing rude or confrontational where everyone can see it, but she's written two of the 9 PMs waiting for 3J when he gets back, and the first paragraphs of her first one are as follows:

Alright, so before this, I've been a little on the fluff side when talking with you. I generally don't like being serious. But I'm really farking pissed at you right now.
I've heard a single side of the story, and from what I have heard, you're being a mother Farking bitch. Excuse the language.
Now, I want to hear your side of the story. Don't you dare say it isn't my business. I want to know why, whether what I'd heard is accurate, and why the hell you're doing this to Kiel.
Last time I asked you, I already knew. I was trying for a nicer way of approaching you about it, so you could say what you wished without feeling like you were being pushed and retaliate in some way. Of course, I went about it the wrong way. Asked too many questions too quickly, so I figured I'd give it time to cool off before I tried again.
With the recent events, well, I figure it's time I stopped playing nice girl too.
 


Also holy shit Bucky, Thara is SALTY right now. Forum games are the third rail I guess.
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« Reply #839 on: September 08, 2016, 10:22:29 pm »

I'm contacting several active members about this. Same message to everyone on the list below. Limit all discussion about this to:
Jaystarthecat
Eshspoyeofdoom
Ford
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Wizzycat
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And myself.
Any thread that I make will be deleted, so pms are the only way I can go. I do not want discussion about this to reach 3j before he replies to me. I want to know his reasons why, justification, and more then one side of the story before anyone does anything.
This is the message I have recently sent him yesterday:

"Alright, so before this, I've been a little on the fluff side when talking with you. I generally don't like being serious. But I'm really farking pissed at you right now.
I've heard a single side of the story, and from what I have heard, you're being a mother Farking bitch. Excuse the language.
Now, I want to hear your side of the story. Don't you dare say it isn't my business. I want to know why, whether what I'd heard is accurate, and why the hell you're doing this to Kiel.
Last time I asked you, I already knew. I was trying for a nicer way of approaching you about it, so you could say what you wished without feeling like you were being pushed and retaliate in some way. Of course, I went about it the wrong way. Asked too many questions too quickly, so I figured I'd give it time to cool off before I tried again.
With the recent events, well, I figure it's time I stopped playing nice girl too.

What I have heard:
1) You're playing favorites. You're protecting Ivy, Mizal, Bucky, End, Steve, and Malk. Your reason being that they have potential, but that leaves me baffled as to why you're bashing Kiel because he has hell of a lot of potential, because he has - sorry, had, before you - to have a featured story in every category, has proven himself to be an excellent writer, and the time/motivation to do it. And he's been helping other authors improve their work. And he was planning on bringing in more people to create stories. I'm thinking perhaps you believe him to be a threat to your position? I cannot think of anything else, honestly. If it's potential you were really after, you've just flushed the mother load down the toilet.
2) Every other mod/admin said no, but you went ahead and demoted Kiel and replaced him with end.
3) You are being paranoid, and a dictating prick. Demoting Kiel for merely not apologizing to your favorites. He made a small edit on Bucky's post, which was righted less than a couple minutes later. Bucky's been a jerk to him for a long time, and so have you. So it's only logical that he wouldn't want to do it. And also for not apologizing to End, about a small 10 point deduction, which End fully agreed with. He says that for both cases, you said that you were afraid they'd leave.
4) You chased away Seth and Kiel. Leaving only berka, who doesn't like what's happening and has just given up on doing anything and is just going with the flow. And now you've promoted one of your favorites, End. So that supports my earlier statement of you being a dictator - wanting everyone in position one who's your lapdog. Keep in mind: If it turns out that things are exactly as I heard, then even though you can easily delete a thread, you cannot delete pms. And if even if you ban me, there aren't IP bans. People will be wondering what pushed me to leave the site before tim dragged me back. And from the reaction, they all enjoy my company here. Well, with the exception of Mizal and steve. You can put two and two together, I believe.
If there's a rational spin to this that I somehow haven't seen yet, then so be it. I'll leave you alone, and I'll apologize for being on your back, and I'll see if I can calm Kiel and the rest (rest being a very small group of close friends who also know the story. It hasn't spread to very many people at all.)"

Here is the message I sent this morning:

"So, I know you have read this since you're chewing Kiel out for it. Instead of, you know, actually talking with me through it civilly. Great to know that I was not wrong in the fact that you are taking every opportunity to tear into him. ^_^
You got what you wanted, and you had him demoted and leaving. Why the hell are you still going at his throat? It's like kicking a man while he's unconscious and on the ground. It's just cruel. And then you go and wonder why he didn't want to apologize at merely your request. And to use my own message against my friend, while deciding I'm not worth your time to reply to, well, my opinion of you is only continuing to fall."
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« Reply #840 on: September 08, 2016, 10:37:55 pm »

Hey 3J, how come you didn't start playing favorites till after ya banned me?
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« Reply #841 on: September 08, 2016, 10:43:43 pm »

Ahahaha, that's the most spite-filled and cuntish thing I've read all month.

3J has all my respect and much of my pity, it's unbelievable what he's willing to put up with.
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« Reply #842 on: September 08, 2016, 10:52:18 pm »

Well, he puts up with you, Mizal, so I'd agree with you that he deals with a lot of spiteful and cuntish things.
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« Reply #843 on: September 08, 2016, 10:55:28 pm »

Charming.

I'll get etsy to make a flowery picture of the statement to colour in and nail to the wall. Evidence that some people will always drink the Kool-aid, and scream that everyone else is wrong.

See, that's why I'm always happy to be upfront, blunt, open and honest with people. Nobody could call me snide, or whining or even cowardly. Would that it could be said of all people.
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« Reply #844 on: September 08, 2016, 10:59:02 pm »

All two of her BHB posts that haven't been deleted were used to make nasty little comments at me! :D This is kind of fun. 
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« Reply #845 on: September 08, 2016, 11:00:45 pm »

You make it too easy, that's all.
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« Reply #846 on: September 08, 2016, 11:05:36 pm »

I find it both amusing and sad how Kiel twisted the story on its head, or more often than not, just flat out lied when he relayed the events to his horde of fan-girls. The outright fury of flailing words is fanciful.
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« Reply #847 on: September 08, 2016, 11:07:50 pm »

3J did that too? Concealed a lot of details, lied to everyone, did everything he blamed everyone else of doing...he's kind of a hypocrite. And a dictator. I guess if the dictator likes you most, you'll side with them anyway. *shrug*
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« Reply #848 on: September 08, 2016, 11:14:19 pm »

Lol, if only 3J actually acted like a dictator, and we could just rid ourselves of anyone irritating instead of letting them stay around to let everyone know how mad they are.
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« Reply #849 on: September 08, 2016, 11:15:55 pm »

Nah, he just plays favourites instead.
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