Topic: Transylvanian Chronicles OOC 1 (Read 875519 times)

Not Aman · « **Reply #1750 on:** April 12, 2015, 07:05:22 pm »

Alright. So, making sure. Presence is more acceptable then dominate, right?

BerkaZerka · « **Reply #1751 on:** April 12, 2015, 07:08:53 pm »

Quote from: Aman on April 12, 2015, 07:05:22 pm

Alright. So, making sure. Presence is more acceptable then dominate, right?

No, it's still using your powers on another without their permission. It's like asking me to trust you not to abuse a blood bond and then asking me to drink your blood 3 times, haha!

Not Aman · « **Reply #1752 on:** April 12, 2015, 07:14:47 pm »

Yeah but drak said this;

Quote from: Drakilian on April 12, 2015, 01:27:19 pm

So you're telling me that Anton, the proud, Iron-willed ashen knight, would easily let another vampire's servant debase him by bending him to their will like putty and forcing him to do whatever they asked?

Out of principle, being dominated is horribly invasive and offensive, it certainly isn't something the good deal of you should be accepting so easily. Presence is another thing - though comparatively easily resisted.

Drakilian · « **Reply #1753 on:** April 12, 2015, 08:23:49 pm »

Presence is widely used in conversations between kindred. It's insulting, yes, and certainly not something casually done, but it cannot actually control you the way Dominate can so it's more acceptable.

BerkaZerka · « **Reply #1754 on:** April 13, 2015, 06:14:32 am »

Good point. It's the old Bela Lugosi stare-down haha!

BerkaZerka · « **Reply #1755 on:** April 13, 2015, 06:17:00 am »

The Love Thrall part of Presence does seem a bit controlling though.

(I hope Sylvan is OK with Steeple dry-humping his leg when he uses it on him ...) XD

BerkaZerka · « **Reply #1756 on:** April 13, 2015, 07:59:49 am »

So, unless I am mistaken, we are at a standstill and all have spoken on the matter.

Let's get the Retainers out of the way - and if they offer no resolution, then we can all gloom and doom on Kiril - wondering if his Retainers know anything.

Personally, even if it comes to that, Steeple is on Kiril's side with not using Disciplines against each other. It's too Meta-Gamey IMO - being that as Players, we are all 'this will work so let's do it', while to the Characters, there are Vampire Social Mores in play that they would know better than we as Players would.

Not saying you can't play your characters anyway you want, but if you choose to be a forceful brute with no regard for proper protocal, then you will be treated and trusted as such. Which in this case is not good for the Coterie or the logic behind it staying/working together.

Yes, there might be a traitor in the midst, but so what. If I might meta-game myself here a bit, I am already 100% certain that we are being screwed over by duplicitous design on at least 3 sides by those who are supposed to be our mentors.

If our characters press Kiril (or any other character) to the point of them having to fight us, then the enemies of the Coterie win.

Not Aman · « **Reply #1757 on:** April 13, 2015, 09:06:18 am »

Agreed.
(But seriously, fark you guy who stole from us

)

Daedalus · « **Reply #1758 on:** April 13, 2015, 09:11:31 am »

Yeah i agree.

And Fark you! (guy who stole from us)

BerkaZerka · « **Reply #1759 on:** April 13, 2015, 09:16:54 am »

It's obviously all part of the Master Plan! XD

BerkaZerka · « **Reply #1760 on:** April 13, 2015, 09:18:22 am »

Ooh, wait - I forgot to jump on the bandwagon.

*ahem ...

Fark that guy haha!

BerkaZerka · « **Reply #1761 on:** April 13, 2015, 09:19:23 am »

D's reply sounds like he's telling Aman "I agree, so fark you!" LOL!

Sethaniel · « **Reply #1762 on:** April 13, 2015, 09:38:14 am »

Fark you, guy who stole from us.

From a really meta standpoint, Kiril is obvi innocent; the guilty one would never set himself up against the rest of the coterie.

IC, Kiril is established as hella possessive of his servants- he almost fought steeple just for talking to Sherazhina- and I will fight any of you that try to dominate her.

Daedalus · « **Reply #1763 on:** April 13, 2015, 09:50:00 am »

Aye, i agree. But from an IC pov you're painting a target on yourself.

BerkaZerka · « **Reply #1764 on:** April 13, 2015, 10:18:21 am »

It's called roleplaying D.

Not Aman · « **Reply #1765 on:** April 13, 2015, 10:22:12 am »

Wha?!?!

Forge · « **Reply #1766 on:** April 13, 2015, 02:57:20 pm »

What is this wierd role playing thing of which you speak?

Drakilian · « **Reply #1767 on:** April 13, 2015, 03:00:53 pm »

So I can write the update now?

Not Aman · « **Reply #1768 on:** April 13, 2015, 03:32:58 pm »

Sethaniel · « **Reply #1769 on:** April 13, 2015, 03:49:06 pm »

Quote from: Drakilian on April 13, 2015, 03:38:27 pm

Each of the servants so brought forward is innocent of any wrongdoing.

The only ones who have not been examined are Kiril's, and Kiril himself.

Wait, who exactly has been examined? And by whom?

At first you said "each of the servants," but then you say "the only ones who haven't been examined are Kiril's servants and Kiril himself." (Which implies the other kindred had been examined)

Also, by necessity, it must not include the examiner.

Sethaniel · « **Reply #1770 on:** April 13, 2015, 03:50:36 pm »

"Each of the servants so brought forward is innocent"

Is an excellent example of the kind of vague description mystery authors use to conceal information.

Drakilian · « **Reply #1771 on:** April 13, 2015, 04:03:32 pm »

Quote from: Sethaniel on April 13, 2015, 03:49:06 pm

Wait, who exactly has been examined? And by whom?

At first you said "each of the servants," but then you say "the only ones who haven't been examined are Kiril's servants and Kiril himself." (Which implies the other kindred had been examined)

Also, by necessity, it must not include the examiner.

None of the vamps have been examined, as per your agreements. Sylvian has no servants, Sylvian would have examined Ennius.

Quote from: Sethaniel on April 13, 2015, 03:50:36 pm

"Each of the servants so brought forward is innocent"

Is an excellent example of the kind of vague description mystery authors use to conceal information.

What, you think i'm going to write out something in big capital letters saying "JOSEPH TOATS DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG, BUT ANTON TOTALLY SHADOWPORTED THAT SHIT RIGHT THERE!"?

You ran your examinations, your examinations found that absolutely not a single one of the servants had anything to do with any of this (to your knowledge). If you want to re-examine them, you'll get the same results. You want to re-examine them a hundred thousand times in a row, your sires will arrive wondering what the hell you're doing and you'll still get the same results. What, exactly, are you expecting here? I'm answering your goddamn question. All the servants brought forward, based on the methods you've chosen to interrogate them with, are innocent.

Sethaniel · « **Reply #1772 on:** April 13, 2015, 04:05:53 pm »

Quote from: Drakilian on April 13, 2015, 04:03:32 pm

None of the vamps have been examined, as per your agreements. Sylvian has no servants, Sylvian would have examined Ennius.

What, you think i'm going to write out something in big capital letters saying "JOSEPH TOATS DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG, BUT ANTON TOTALLY SHADOWPORTED THAT SHIT RIGHT THERE!"?

You ran your examinations, your examinations found that absolutely not a single one of the servants had anything to do with any of this (to your knowledge). If you want to re-examine them, you'll get the same results. You want to re-examine them a hundred thousand times in a row, your sires will arrive wondering what the hell you're doing and you'll still get the same results. What, exactly, are you expecting here? I'm answering your goddamn question. All the servants brought forward, based on the methods you've chosen to interrogate them with, are innocent.

I'm just asking you to be clear in your description.

Not Aman · « **Reply #1773 on:** April 13, 2015, 04:06:51 pm »

Aww, i hoped the plan would work.

Seriously tho, fark you thief guy.

Daedalus · « **Reply #1774 on:** April 13, 2015, 04:12:14 pm »

Quote from: BerkaZerka on April 13, 2015, 10:18:21 am

It's called roleplaying D.

Roleplaying? Whats that? metagaming is looove.

Daedalus · « **Reply #1775 on:** April 13, 2015, 04:14:03 pm »

Seth, you need to be clear in your description if you're whispering back! One could just assume you're shouting replies back!

Sethaniel · « **Reply #1776 on:** April 13, 2015, 04:21:35 pm »

Farking autocorrect carinusCarinus see what it does! Every time!

Not Aman · « **Reply #1777 on:** April 13, 2015, 04:31:27 pm »

XD

Sethseth, itsIts okayOkay

BerkaZerka · « **Reply #1778 on:** April 13, 2015, 05:19:20 pm »

I tried autocorrect once. I didn't like it.

BerkaZerka · « **Reply #1779 on:** April 13, 2015, 05:20:50 pm »

So, how mad will Steeple's Sire be when he sees what Steeple has allowed Lucien to do to his servant?

Daedalus · « **Reply #1780 on:** April 13, 2015, 07:12:13 pm »

Does Steeple want Lucien to coke alobg? XD

BerkaZerka · « **Reply #1781 on:** April 13, 2015, 07:27:36 pm »

Yes? I don't even know what that means!

Drakilian · « **Reply #1782 on:** April 13, 2015, 08:07:23 pm »

Does steeple want Lucien to coke a lob g?

I feel like this involves a ton of cocaine, a log, a and possibly throwing something said coke-log at another living being.

Drakilian · « **Reply #1783 on:** April 13, 2015, 08:07:40 pm »

That or he meant "come along"

BerkaZerka · « **Reply #1784 on:** April 14, 2015, 05:38:49 am »

Coke Snorting Lobsters is what Steeple heard. And yes. The answer to that question is always yes.

Daedalus · « **Reply #1785 on:** April 14, 2015, 07:47:03 am »

Wait! Steeple you bastard! YOU are the Farker that stoole it?

BerkaZerka · « **Reply #1786 on:** April 14, 2015, 07:49:37 am »

It was the Coke Snorting Lobsters - I Swear!!!

Sethaniel · « **Reply #1787 on:** April 14, 2015, 08:10:31 am »

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Hmm, if I have to guess, it's Berka.

I was right, i was right!!! Who's the 2000 iq killjoy detective?! XD

Not Aman · « **Reply #1788 on:** April 14, 2015, 09:21:52 am »

Forge · « **Reply #1789 on:** April 14, 2015, 10:44:40 am »

I assumed we all thought it was the mentally unsound guy but had to RP without all going "Search the weirdo!" Lol

BerkaZerka · « **Reply #1790 on:** April 14, 2015, 12:07:11 pm »

Curse 'Roleplaying' and not using OOC knowledge to further advance our characters! XD

But yeah, Steeple doesn't actually have the key on him, hehe ...

Daedalus · « **Reply #1791 on:** April 14, 2015, 01:33:39 pm »

But why'd he do it?

BerkaZerka · « **Reply #1792 on:** April 14, 2015, 02:37:36 pm »

Steeple knows that "they" are going to come after the Key, so he hid it from "them" to protect not only the Key, but the Coterie.

Daedalus · « **Reply #1793 on:** April 14, 2015, 02:42:36 pm »

how anti hero of him.

Drakilian · « **Reply #1794 on:** April 14, 2015, 04:09:14 pm »

Anyways, I'll finish the rest of the write up for the scene later, then we finish this and move on to Act two.

Which is sick, because Act two is the First act of the Bitter Crusade, which is by far the best chronicle out of the lot.

Not Aman · « **Reply #1795 on:** April 14, 2015, 04:13:05 pm »

Booyah. Here we come to princedom! ^_^/

Hey, bz, if steeple was so focused on keeping the tablets, why'd he suggest giving it to Zelios? Didnt realize they were enochian text?

BerkaZerka · « **Reply #1796 on:** April 14, 2015, 04:36:49 pm »

That was Steeple trying to fosh the responsibility of the Key off on someone else that he figured could handle it. When Zelios declined, and basically mentioned "You are all DOOMED if you keep these," Steeple knew that he had to act.

Yeah, that's it... yeah.

Drakilian · « **Reply #1797 on:** April 14, 2015, 04:38:46 pm »

Also, Zelios was the one who told you guys it was from the time of Caine, so there's that to consider.

Drakilian · « **Reply #1798 on:** April 14, 2015, 04:39:54 pm »

Also, it's worth considering that if Radu asked about a translation key and you guys lost it before he got there (or failed to send it to him in the first place) it would be considered a failure on your parts (and as we've discussed, failure = very very bad things happening to you at this juncture. Lucky for you, Radu gives 0 shits about the translation key...)

Prince · « **Reply #1799 on:** April 14, 2015, 04:53:55 pm »

I take it that a forgery wouldn't have cut it?

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